SCAM!
Email dari Jennifer:
From: Jennifer Hartley [mailto:support1@eutradeltd.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:43 PM
To: John Handoyo [mailto:handoyo@eutradeltd.com]
Subject: Re[4]: Still Problem
Oh. Let’ say - we going to do rollback today to the old build - it’s appears we can’t do anything with new scripts and fix it. If I tell you after short downtime today at night (2-3 hours) if all transaction will be processed automatically and there is no more any delay associated - do you believe in us finally and stop complaints completely?
From: Jennifer Hartley [mailto:support1@eutradeltd.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:54 PM
To: Abdullah Riffai [mailto:abdullah.riffai@yahoo.co.id]
Subject: Withdrawal Problem
Hello,
Transaction will be processed in manual mode in next 24-48h directly to your e-gold account. Thank You.
We currently working on is issue and if you still didn’t receive transaction ,it’s will be processed automatically in next 24 up to 48 hours. This issue will be completely re-solved in 1-3 days and transaction will be processed as usual in automatic mode and available on your e-gold account instantly.
In the News: The pledge of our stability 01/25/07
As you probably know we had a minor issue because of our operational environment upgrade (OS, Security Patches and other back-end operations) during the maintenance which was completed on 17-19 January. Few issues can still appear because of the new software, but you may rest assured that everything will be fixed during nearest non-business days (Saturday, January 27 and Sunday, January 28). If you experience any issues with your transactions before these days please contact customer support service as soon as possible and briefly describe the nature of the event you encountered.
We apologize for any inconvenience that this may cause you.
Email terakhir dari Jannifer yang aku terima:
From: Jennifer Hartley [mailto:support1@eutradeltd.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 4:58 PM
To: nerevarinster@gmail.com
Cc: Suleman Rasheed; handoyo@eutradeltd.com; farsi@eutradeltd.com; support34@eutradeltd.com; deutsch@eutradeltd.com; chinese@eutradeltd.com; investindo@eutradeltd.com; ekabunet@eutradeltd.com; endang@eutradeltd.com; nigeria@eutradeltd.com; philippines@eutradeltd.com; taiwan@eutradeltd.com; espanol@eutradeltd.com; chinainvest@eutradeltd.com; nerevarinster@gmail.com; zevenhek@raketnet.nl; khademi.mojtaba@gmail.com; ctcsamdave@yahoo.com
Subject: Annoucement
Hello,
We are currently performing maintenance on our servers. This maintenance process is necessary to address a temporary problem related to completion of your transactions automatically.
During next 24 hours there may be brief interruptions in the availability of the company web site.
Our technicians have plans to address that issue through a rollback of the website software to the previous version we had through last months of 2006. You can expect transactions to be processed directly to your account(s) within next 48 hours and have the stable operational environment as we were offering earlier.
We do apologize for any inconvenience caused and thank you for your patience.
Sincerely,
Jennifer Hartley
Europe Trade Ltd.
Telephone -
U.K.: +442070992012
U.S.A.: +18667480869
Indonesia: +622168881330
Iran: +983342253901
Nigeria: +34 1 08023530965
Netherlands: +31 6 42346036
Philippines +639209051763
Taiwan: +886426314777 (local 04-26314777)
Argentina: +543514899463
Malaysia: +60176468979
China: +86 15994289181 Monday - Friday, 10:30-18:00 (Beijing Time)
+86 7975074553 Monday - Friday, 18:30-23:30 (Beijing Time) Sunday - Saturday, 10:30-14:00 (Beijing Time)
Detail:
Rekan2 investor lainnya, ET banyak kata2nya belakangan ini yang tidak ada korelasinya sama sekali dan sudah tidak pernah tepat janji, terutama sejak ada adjustment dan sebagainya. Awalnya kita masih bisa terima, tetapi kebelakang, terutama sejak tanggal 17 January lalu, sudah mendesak buat aku untuk warning teman2 agar tidak tambah dana atau invest baru lagi. Tapi tidak ada yang gubris dan malah mentertawakan aku.
Namanya juga HYIP, maka sudah harus kita ketahui bersama resikonya, lagi pula, semua tanda2nya juga jelas. Maka aku sedih, dan ternyata alamat IP nya juga sudah pindah beberapa kali sejak awal dulu aku mengenal ET, maka makin tinggi kecurigaan bahwa ada yang tidak beres. Kita buktikan saja kekuatiran saya, 24 dan 48 jam setelah sudah Jennifer dibawah. 24 jam untuk website nya, dan 48 jam untuk system withdrawal otomatis nya.
Lagipula, bagaimana tidak menipu? Dari awal, dan terakhir yang bisa aku track down, itu alamat IP sudah pindah beberapa kali, terakhir aku baru paham terutama sejak tanggal 17 January juga. 2 alamat IP terakhir sudah beda dengan sebelumnya, dan awalnya ada
di Melbourne, Australia. Kronlogi dan analisa ku tentang HYIP terutama ET mulai tidak bisa dipercaya:
1. Interest Adjustment.
2. Libur Natal & Tahun baru, yang jelas2 di web nya ET hanya mengakui 3 hari libur resmi Inggris. Tidak bayar profit ke investor. Dengan alasan perbaikan system jaringan computer, dan bebenah ruang kantor.
3. Mengeluarkan seritifikat kontrak dan asuransi.
4. Keluar program baru yang makin rendah bunganya, plus bunga yang tidak ada patokannya, alias diambangkan antara 0.3% - 4.5%.
5. Statement akan menghapus program original setelah 2 minggu sejak tanggal 1 january 2007. Tetapi ternyata tidak jadi dihapus.
6. Ketahuan mempunyai 2 alamat lain di Panama dan Seychelles, lengkap dengan account2 bank nya.
7. Bagi2kan trading history yang setelah diperiksa oleh pakar trading di pasar saham, ternyata hanya virtual dan tidak nyata. Dengan kata lain adalah hasil rekayasa.
8. Konperensi tanggal 18 January dibatalkan secara mendadak, sehingga tidak ada orang yang bisa hadir mengikuti trading ET.
9. News Letter #12, ini yang paling tidak bisa dipercaya, pada saat yang bersamaan:
a. Pada tanggal yang sama dengan pernyataan libur maintenance. Sekali lagi tidak bayar profit ke investor.
b. Keluar program baru “Hedge Fund” dengan batasan minimal $2,000 max 600 investor dan tanggal 10 February 2007. Siapa yang bakal tahu bahwa sudah masuk 600 investor, dan berapa banyak yang sudah setor di program ini? Tanggal 10 February 2007 itu sudah sangat mencurigakan.
c. Maintenance server lagi. Jadi apa yang mereka lakukan pada liburan pada butir 2 diatas?
10. Pada tahapan ini saya sudah warning kepada para investor yang mempunyai jaringan luas untuk tidak tambah dana ataupun stop semua investasi baru, dengan tujuan agar tidak bertambah banyak korban. Tapi hasilnya sungguh diluar dugaan, saya malah ditertawakan. Betapa sedihnya hati ini!
11. Selasa tanggal 23 January sudah tidak bisa withdraw ke e-gold, dengan alasan macam2 termasuk:
a. Kesalahan script.
b. Pembayaran akan diproses secara manual, tapi tidak pernah terjadi.
c. Janji yang diundur terus.
d. Apakah ini hasil dari pekerjaan maintenance pada butir 8 diatas?
12. Email terakhir dari Jennifer yang aku terima seperti pada salinnannya diatas degnan subject: Annoucement, sangat mengejutkan, dan sangat tidak masuk akal. Karena perusahaan sekelas ET masih harus mematikan server dan web selama maintenance. Coba kaji waktu libur pada butir 2 dan 8 diatas.
13. Belum lagi beberapa hal terakhir pada tanggal 30 dan 31 January, beberapa balasan ke investor dan ke saya, dimana tidak nyambung sama sekali.
14. Kemarin malam, saya dengan bantuan teman yang ahli dalam jaringan internet, dibantu untuk melacak dimana sebenarnya asal Server dan email2 mereka. Dan hasilnya seperti apa yang Anda lihat dari email2 ku kemarin.
Semoga penjelasan saya diatas dapat Anda pahami. Jujur saja, kita semua tertipu…
Dan aku sedang mengusahakan penggalangan investor, atau salah satu dari kalian mau menjadi sukarelawan untuk memproses hal ini via lawyer e-gold di London, namanya
Michael J Bruzzese, dengan mjblaw@verizon.net untuk memblokir semua rekening e-gold ET dan memprosesnya untuk dikembalikan ke kita semua, dengan imbalan sebanyak 30% dari total nilai dana yang dapat dibekukan, itupun kalau masih keburu. Yang aku kuatirkan, selama proses mereka mengulur2 waktu, sudah keburu menjual semua e-gold mereka dan sudah tidak keburu membekukan dananya.
PS: Pak Eka Budineta sedang mengupayakan pelaporan ke Interpol mengenai hal ini, dan beliau juga sudah melaporkannya ke Company House of UK (Kadin UK) per email dibawah ini:
—–Original Message—–
From: beneta@hushmail.com [mailto:beneta@hushmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:08 AM
To: support@companieshouse.gov.uk
Cc: john.handoyo@yahoo.co.id
Subject: AFRAID OF FRAUD
—–BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE—–
Hash: SHA1
Dear Sir,
Incorporated under the Companies Act 1985 as a private company and the company is limited, then a lot INDONESIAN INVESTORS had put their funds at EUROPE TRADE(UK)LTD (Company No.5070895)for 180 working days in order to gain daily investment return.
In terms of investors of the company mentioned above, We here in Indonesia had totally put our money as initial investment not less than USD 1,000,000.00(ONE MILLION US$) since August 2006 up to 31 January 2007.
I received the latest email from Europe Trade(UK) Ltd last night on Wed,31st 2007. It described that their server under maintenance, so there will be brief interuptions during maintenance performance.
They also mentioned that all the pending payments of daily earning would be paid within the next 48 hours.
I am afraid because of inaccessibilities occured suddenly for all kinds of contact effort, such both phone calls directly to their Head Office in London, and sending emails to:
(1)CEO(Mr.Anthony J Sarnes)
(2)Trading Manager (Mr.Peter Morrison)
(3)Sales Head Support (Ms.Jennifer Hartley)
As The Registrar of Companies for England and Wales, we do really hope your kindly effort to find out whether Europe Trade(UK)LTD is still exist as one of European Leading Company which provides financial services and investment recources worldwide.
We appreciate for your kindly best effort to clarify our panic reaction due to “the uncommon server maintenance” which had been taken two times within 2(two) periods below:
(1) From 17 Januari till 19 January 2007 (3 days). NO INVESTMENT RETURN PAID DURING THAT 3(three) days!!
(2) From 31 January 2007 up to present. TOTALLY INACCESSIBLE !!
Sincerely yours,
Eka Budineta
From: Eka Budineta [mailto:ekabunet@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 10:45 PM
To: john.handoyo@gmail.com
Subject: Fwd: Physical address of europe trade!
Forwarded Conversation
Subject: Physical address of europe trade!
————————
From: tom jacson
To: ekabunet@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Feb 2, 2007 at 4:05 PM
Hello,
Since you are one of europe trade representatives, I’m giving you their real address, that seems to be real.
I don’t know exactly, anyway, I’m gunna help you, as law may cut you for the $3m.
Their physical address:
“26/28 Hammersmith Grove, London, W6 7BA”
Email me back, if you have any idea.
By best of luck, Tom Jacson
——–
From: Eka Budineta <>
To: tom jacson
Date: Fri, Feb 2, 2007 at 10:06 PM
Hello Tom,
Okey, Thank you. Let me advice you to set an action professionally as All Indonesian Investor Attorney, so kindly please send me MoU in pdf file then I signed as our agreement to accomplish what ever come out as your effort to bring all the Indonesian fund back to my country.
If you need an interpol cooperation just let me now.
We are here cried out loud as Anthony J Sarnes as CEO, Peter Morrison as Trading Manager and Jennifer Hartley later on known as BIG SCAMMERS scamming not less than USD 3,000,000.00 ( USD 3 Millon).
Kindly please also make cooperation with Indonesia Ambassy in London,
Faithfully Yours,
Eka Budineta
From: John Handoyo [mailto:john.handoyo@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 5:11 PM
To: ‘Michael J Bruzzese’
Cc: ‘Eka Budineta’
Subject: Attorney Appointment
Hi Michael,
Please let me introduce my self who on behalf of Indonesian investors that has been invested on Europe Trade (UK) Ltd with not less than USD 3 million altogether. Furthermore if we summed for the whole investors from all over the world, for sure it would not be less than USD 10 million at once. I can provide you prove of it if you require it soon.
We are just recognized that has been cheated by Europe Trade (UK) Ltd since we cannot find its either website as http://www.eutradeltd.com nor company email address on the 31st of January, which means those inaccessible till now.
So please, right now, do us a favor to freeze Europe Trade (UK) Ltd e-gold accounts and Bank accounts which were stated on their email, which I can forwarded to you if you agree to assist us to get our funds back. We all agreed to reserve as much as 30% of the possible collected and/or recovered fund from it.
If you have any MOU to be signed, so then please don’t hesitate to email me, complete with all possible needed enquiries should be accomplished by us here, as we are going to appoint you as our single attorney on behalf of us to put those cyber crime suspects into jail.
Thanks and you prompt reply will be much appreciated.
John Handoyo
On behalf of Indonesian Investors of Europe Trade (UK) Ltd
Rekan-rekan, coba lihat korelasi dari tujuan, tanggal, dan waktunya, lalu mari kita buktikan bersama!
Europe Trade (UK) Ltd
180 Tottenham Court Rd, Suite 12
3rd Floor, Queens House
London W1T 7PD, United Kingdom
Bebas Pulsa: USA/CANADA +1(866)748-0869, UK +442070992012, FAX +442070431234
ET Group Incorporation
Ave Ricardo J Alfaro
The Century Tower, 20th Floor Office 207
Panama City, Panama
International: +00 507 264-6361
Dari USA dan negara Caribbean lainnya: +011 507 264-6361
Europe Trade Ltd
306 Victoria House
Victoria, Mahe, Seychelles
_____________________________________________________________________________________-
Hello,
Information you sent to us posted by a SCAMERS/Blackmails called a Ralf Finance aka Ecommerce-Journal
E-Commerce Journal AKA Ralf Finance ADMIN (SCAMS)
That's just some kind of nonsense and lie that is being brought on us again and again. You may visit our news archive and find that we had the same black PR attack months ago. We are recognized company with world-wide network of branches. Actually it seems that those information was sent by unfair competitor, who is desperately trying to ruin our company reputation.
United Kingdom Government Website:
For further information, you can also check online: Companies House URL http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/
Choose "WebCHeck", and Enter Europe Trade registration number 5070895.
Independent ,third parties verification:
ControlScan has also conducted an in depth business background verification and
awarded Europe Trade (UK) Ltd. with the following ControlScan seals of approval:
http://www.controlscan.com/seal/verify2.php?subid=3179&id=95 .
Yahoo Network -
http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22SUITE+12+2ND+FLOOR+QUEENS+HOUSE%2C180+tottenham+court+road%22&prssweb=Search&ei=UTF-8&n=10&fl=0&vc=countryUK&meta=vc%3DcountryUK&fr=ybr_bt&vst=0&vs=www.ukdata.com
http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22SUITE+12+2ND+FLOOR+QUEENS+HOUSE%2C180+tottenham+court+road%22&prssweb=Search&amp;amp;amp;ei=UTF-8&fr=ybr_bt&n=10&fl=0&vc=countryUK&x=wrt&meta=vc%3DcountryUK
http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22180+tottenham+court+road%22&prssweb=Search&amp;amp;amp;ei=UTF-8&fr=ybr_bt&n=10&fl=0&vc=countryUK&x=wrt&meta=vc%3DcountryUK
United Kingdom credit history agency:
http://www.ukdata.com
enter a Europe Trade (UK) Ltd registration number 5070895 You can request various company documents including trading history, company registration and certificates from Mr. Morrison at: morrison@eutradeltd.com .
The "Financial Statement 2005 - 2006" and FX Trading History sample attached at your convenience.
FAKE INFORMATION POSTED BY A SCAMMERS CALLED ECOMMERCE JOURNAL
Why we should respond to the blackmailers, scammers and criminals? They blackmail Europe Trade and other programs at daily basis and asking for a 50,000 USD (at least from us) Everything they say - complete lie and we can show you a proof.
That's just some kind of nonsense and lie that is being brought on us again and again. You may visit our news archive and find that we had the same black PR attack months ago. We are recognized company with world-wide network of branches. Now, who is behind that journal? There is no phone number or other contact information at their website.
We don't care about e-commerce journal and any post here (owners of is resource known as "Ralf Finance" HYIP in past, look more at talkgold.com/forum "Ralf Finance" thread in SCAM folder) so basically, 99.9% information they post at resource about us fake and it's just matter of time when they all go in jail.
http://ecommerce-journal.com domain registered to the "FAKE" and "Anonymous" address/name - you can check there :
http://inti.devnull.net/cgi-bin/command.cgi?command=whois&arg1=ecommerce-journal.com
Domain Name: ECOMMERCE-JOURNAL.COM
Registrant:
N/A
Paul Bramble ( support@sign-ads.com )
po box 924
canyon country
California,91351
US
Tel. +001.3022617350
Creation Date: 04-Jun-2006
Expiration Date: 04-Jun-2007
Domain servers in listed order:
domains-as.mars.orderbox-dns.com
domains-as.earth.orderbox-dns.com
domains-as.venus.orderbox-dns.com
domains-as.mercury.orderbox-dns.com
ns7.zoneedit.com
ns6.zoneedit.co.uk
ns1.zoneedit.com
ns1.afraid.org
ns14.zoneedit.com
ns12.zoneedit.com
ns10.zoneedit.com
Administrative Contact:
N/A
Paul Bramble ( support@sign-ads.com )
po box 924
canyon country
California,91351
US
Tel. +001.3022617350
Technical Contact:
N/A
Paul Bramble ( support@sign-ads.com )
po box 924
canyon country
California,91351
US
Tel. +001.3022617350
Billing Contact:
N/A
Paul Bramble ( support@sign-ads.com )
po box 924
canyon country
California,91351
US
Tel. +001.3022617350
We just received a disturbing materials from one of our Chinese member regarding e-commerce journal - I hope it's explain everything.
http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1173203&postcount=2580
http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1184772&postcount=2653
http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1190497&postcount=2704
http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1197389&postcount=2737
http://www.hyipdiscussion.com/scam-warnings/23690-ralf-finance-asset-management-8.html#post221210
We already answered on all accusation and ask administration of e-commerce to show any sort of proof.Instead
of doing is - they desperately hiding true identity.
Please check a talkgold.com/forum "Ralf Finance" thread,located in the SCAM folder. There you can find a
lot of interesting information about e-commerce journal and famous scam called ralf finance
And by the way here there truth -
However, I want to warn you about Ecommerce Journal - before
you start to believe in any post from those individuals - try
to obtain proof,because mostly everything they said can be fake.
1-2 E-commerce journal more looks like "SCAMMERS journal" for us, they are part of Ralf Finance group which forwarded their calls to our call center We tried to contact those authors/editors several times,but they keep a silence and deleting all our comments at their ecommerce-journal.com Although at this point he has strong belief that it could take a long
time as it's not easy to do so through one simple case as there is no valid contact information for either author(s), editor(s) or owner(s). You can read more about those criminals at talkgold.com/forum , just check a Ralf Finance thread.
The history was started when Ecommerce Journal made an newspost against us (right after Ralf Finance scammed all people) and try to connect Europe Trade Ltd to Ralf Finance scammer
( http://ecommerce-journal.com/?q=node/692 ) but due of big mistake of Ralf Finance scammers (check talkgold.com/forum ralf finance thread) second HYIP of those scammers
was revealed. Next.. little bit later,they make another post and in those post they claiming we InvestDot and VascoInvestment ( http://ecommerce-journal.com/?q=node/680 ) As usual they keep silence and avoid all contact with us. Right now, some individuals and we believe it's a ecomerce-journal spreading spam around whole internet and such spam contains a message claiming Europe Trade is a Solidinvestments. Alo, you may have heard about spam messages sent with their "articles" texts.
Regarding one of the other post from those individuals here http://ecommerce-journal.com/?q=node/624 - contains pure lie about phones,about blocked e-gold, about MMG etc. and just quote:
More and more members are reported that they didn't get payment from this program.
What is really funny - 100% of our members are paid in time and in full, so I guess will be big problem for those individuals to show a proof. We already sent proof of thousands payments to
gohyip.com, hyipsensor.com (owners are respectable talkgold.com's forum members) and it's not big deal - we even post screenshots of our all daily payouts on forum.
> Europe Trade Ltd's thread on MMG has been moved to 'closed/scam
section' for having> multiple nicks/IDs.
Looks like our thread fine.
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/index.php?showtopic=86558&hl=
> I searched for company's registration on Companies House and found this
result:
> "Name & Registered Office:
> EUROPE TRADE (UK) LTD
> SUITE 12, 2ND FLOOR, QUEENS
> HOUSE, 180 TOTTENHAM COURT ROAD
About possible same address - they simple ""forgot"" to tell
people at same address registered thousands of respectable UK companies in London.
You can search here - we usually show to all people who ask about
this post from e-commerce journal to check this link
At same address registered around 30,000 companies and it's located in most respectable place of London in
business center like a Petroleum in Kuala Lumpur,Malaysia or ex-WTC in NYC,USA
You can check here -
http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22SUITE+12+2ND+FLOOR+QUEENS+HOUSE%2C180+tottenham+court+road%22&prssweb=Search&ei=UTF-8&amp;amp;amp;n=10&fl=0&vc=countryUK&meta=vc%3DcountryUK&fr=ybr_bt&vst=0&vs=www.ukdata.com
http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22SUITE+12+2ND+FLOOR+QUEENS+HOUSE%2C180+tottenham+court+road%22&prssweb=Search&amp;amp;amp;ei=UTF-8&fr=ybr_bt&n=10&fl=0&vc=countryUK&x=wrt&meta=vc%3DcountryUK
http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22180+tottenham+court+road%22&prssweb=Search&amp;amp;amp;ei=UTF-8&fr=ybr_bt&n=10&fl=0&vc=countryUK&x=wrt&meta=vc%3DcountryUK
http://www.ukdata.com
I regret to inform you that We are NOT related to SolidInvestments, VascoInvestment,Invesdot,Ralf Finance,Pontailer and any other companies nor Act In Business in anyway. Actually it seems that those information was total lies and generated by unfair competitor, who is desperately trying to ruin our company reputation.
About DDOS - We didn't receive even single e-mail message neither phonecall from authorities regarding this matter and we believe no such thing like DDOS even had a place, probably hosting company just suspended account of ecomerce-journal by unknown reason for us.
I can comment every single bad post from ecommerce journal and show a proof (just let me know) - everything they said about europe trade ltd completely FAKE.
Recently, our company Europe Trade UK Ltd. has made several remarkable achievements resulting in a number of significant steps forward being made in our general business development.
Our on-line existence is currently unmatched – with our site popularity now having absolutely NO RIVALS (our site statistics report about 10,000 unique visitors to our website each day (see pic below))! In light of this excellent new position, we have now instated various new options and begun several new additional bonus programs for the overall benefit of our member base.
As a direct result of these actions, we have done something that virtually no other online investment company has yet achieved. We have demonstrated that through having extremely sound business practices and high-quality financial trading done daily, EXPERIENCING THIS LEVEL OF CONTINUOUS ON-LINE SUCCESS IS ACTUALLY POSSIBLE.
This profound announcement, expressed by our forthright business actions, rather than simply words or hype, has become good news for almost everyone. That is, with the exception of course being naturally our competitors!
It has become a tremendous challenge for these people to accept the simple fact of our existence, while in the end only proving beyond any doubt whatsoever that the failed plans and pathetic expectations of their “Justice Fighters” are little more than the pointless meanderings of a group of lost individuals.
No matter how successful we may become, (or perhaps how envious and jealous they truthfully are), if they even for one moment had the guts to face their own attitudes and actions, nothing could then possibly irritate these individuals more than the evidential proof of their own
unprofessional-ism!
After initially getting our company started up properly and our on-line project began to function smoothly, by August of this year we were inundated with heaps of maliciously thrown dirt and groundless accusations, which may be summed up into one word: SCAM!
We then decided to simply ignore all of this silly screaming nonsense, the likes of which might be considered normal fare for the HYIP arena, but is thoroughly unacceptable for us! Subsequently, we were then attacked by a wave of bad votes on the High Yield monitors, with them citing 100 groundless accusations and “investigations”. No sooner had we started to unearth the truth, when it was inevitably discovered that these votes were all cheap fakes!
In two weeks they calmed down and disappeared as if nobody had any claims against us at all! Hey, cheated and offended investors...where are you??? Come get a bonus! We thought they were gone for good, but what do you know? They then miraculously re-appeared! This time with blackmail! $50,000 USD!
This is the price of "our freedom" they say, otherwise they will “...annihilate us and put us down into the dirt, exposing our inside operations...” Well folks, our "inside operations" now feature traffic of more than 10,000 unique visitors to our site every single day, in addition
to our opening representative offices and affiliated agencies all over the world. This comes along with crowds of grateful investors, active site improvement and updates, and powerful technical protection for our website.
We honestly won't mind at all if they expose our inside operations! As a matter of fact, they would only be doing us a promotional favor. For free!
This mail was (thankfully) forgotten. Maybe, in vain? Recently the next "E.T. Destroying" article has been published in "Ecommerce journal". The administration of that project has demonstrated both their insistence and persistence, and just like four months ago, has put the word SCAM next to the name of our company. This has been their latest attempt at “SHOWING US UP”.
We again decided to disregard their silly accusations. It is senseless to repeat over and over who and what we are, and if someone actually tries to do us harm, it will be against all odds! Our good investors however, are the party which really interests us, and they understandably started to worry and ask questions about it.
In the hopes of satisfying the needs and desires of our investing clientele, we paid serious attention to this problem and to an individual “accuser” who shall remain unnamed. We found out very quickly what this accusation meant and what this "Ecommerce-journal" actually was.
Do you remember "Ralf-Finance"?
The Ralf-Finance "investment" pyramid scheme crashed in August, when we started to gain solid status in the market, and it became clear that we were gaining a leadership position. It is now evident that they regarded us as the reason behind their crash!
Since that time, the Ralf-Finance backed Ecommerce-Journal http://i75.imagethrust.com/i/528326/ipresize.jpg) name appeared and the attacks began. We won’t add here tons of additional data, further proving the unquestionable impurity of our accusers. We won’t ask questions like “WHERE IS YOUR ADDRESS? WHY DON’T YOU REPLY TO OUR MAILS?” It is enough to indicate to this connection, and we won’t behave like this yellow media, searching for inklings of something suspicious.
THIS IS NOT OUR LINE OF WORK!
In closing, I want to add to this information a major message, which may be regarded as our official reply to all our investors and site visitors. This reply will again reflect our position towards this evil campaign based upon the unachievable pipe-dream of spoiling our well-deserved and excellent reputation.
Most incredibly, we have faced this display of successive and methodical attacks against us without one bit of fear, which activity is regarded as the common method of competitive struggle in the HYIP sphere. This time however, the administrators of our competitors have chosen to use their subordinate mass-media, and these media miss the mark again and again,
while simultaneously inaccurately predicting our closure.
Maybe it’s enough of trying to cheat the readers?
They lost their chance of making money four months ago!
They should have calculated their own perspectives instead of jumping out with such baseless and unfruitful words. “This time it will happen for sure... ” they stated. NOTHING OF THAT KIND, we state! Even more silliness! An edition which appeared from "HYIP" and "Living on HYIP's" should realize of the rules.
And once they have so uttered their "facts", they should provide due evidence to prove the authenticity of programs they have recommended. How can they recommend someone?
Dear readers, Ecommerce-journal RECOMMENDS investing in some HYIP. This rings a bell, doesn’t it? We are tired of proving our honesty, which is proved by a simple fact: WE WERE PAYING, WE ARE PAYING AND WE WILL BE PAYING.
This is the main term of our user agreement. This is our MAIN rule.
This is a PURPOSE which makes investors from all over the world fund their accounts with us, and that’s why we translate our site into a dozen languages, and reduce our minimum to ridiculous sums and increase the ROI to an incredible yet achievable amount.
That’s why we want to ask our investors and readers – if you trust some other untrustworthy sources, why should you invest in the programs recommended by these sources, which should be enough for you to get the basic idea? These "companies" appear and disappear sometimes literally from one day to the next, while we are working harder and harder every day for your profits. This should tell you definitively “who is who", and "what is what”.
And we are not going to waste our precious time and energy explaining again and again into the future that we INVEST and TRADE, and not CHEAT and STEAL! So why should we get involved in a pointless struggle for the truth and reply to these baseless provocations, drawing our attention away from our most important mission?
We are not going to do it for one second!
We are simply not going to comment any further on these silly words.
And we hope that each of our investors will at first address us, because he has already entrusted his money to us, which can only mean that he trusts us, and you can be 100 certain - NOT IN VAIN! Lastly, each of those who still hesitate and do not know, invest or not, should remember that it is your choice whether to invest or not, and you are the only person to ultimately decide over all pros and cons.
The positive points that we have discussed here today have already shocked some investors by giving them a stable profit and account bonuses within FOUR months. I can see why the competition thinks we're scary, but for much different reasons than they might suggest!
Sincerely yours, Europe Trade (UK) LTD.
If you have any questions at all - please feel free to contact me or give us a call Toll Free: USA/CANADA +1(866)748-0869 /UK +442070992012/ FAX +442070431234 / International:+00 507 264-6361 - From US and other Caribbean countries: +011 507 264-6361
You may reach a real support person CSR 24h/7d there as long as your caller ID is detectable.
Online support is available on our company website.
Official Forum - http://www.europetrade-forum.com
Europe Trade offers investment services through a select group of agents and representatives around the globe.
To identify the Europe Trade agent closest to you and gain additional contact information, please contact our customer service
representative at: support3@eutradeltd.com.
Sincerely,
Jennifer Hartley
Europe Trade Ltd.
Telephone -
U.K.: +442070992012
U.S.A.: +18667480869
Indonesia: +622168881330
Iran: +983342253901
Nigeria: +34 1 08023530965
Netherlands: +31 6 42346036
Philippines +639209051763
Taiwan: +886426314777 (local 04-26314777)
Argentina: +543514899463
Malaysia: +60176468979
China: +86 15994289181 Monday - Friday, 10:30-18:00 (Beijing Time)
+86 7975074553 Monday - Friday, 18:30-23:30 (Beijing Time) Sunday - Saturday,10:30-14:00 (Beijing Time)
Proof of daily payouts can be found in the "Been Paid" section of
Europe Trade Forum at http://www.europetrade-forum.com
Tips:
Diversification:
We can recommend a diversification strategy for all of our members - This means spreading investment out across different sectors and funds - Aggressive,Conservative,Balanced and Original. That way, if one sector or fund performs poorly, your entire portfolio will not be affected as dramatically. The risk exposure to a particular investment is reduced, and the total overall risk of your portfolio decreases.
Europe Trade Servers:
http://www.eutradeltd.com or http://209.249.222.4/
http://www2.eutradeltd.com or http://209.249.222.5/
http://www3.eutradeltd.com or http://208.98.13.99/
Deposit/Withdraw available :
Bank Wire Transfer,Western Union,MoneyGram,Check,Credit Card,E-Bullion,E-Gold - request instruction from a paid@eutradeltd.com
"Put not your trust in money, but put your money in trust". ~Oliver Wendell Holmes
---- Original Message ----
Date: Friday, January 19, 2007, 11:09:59 AM
Subject: Last week on July 25th, I revealed about the Europe Trade Ltd scam. Here I’ll reveal more about them. It’s possible that Europe Trade Ltd is belongs to the same owner of the previous scam; InvestDot and VascoInvestment.
> Hi Jennifer
> Request to be can be explained !
> Thank you.
> Last week on July 25th, I revealed about the Europe Trade Ltd scam. Here
> I’ll reveal more about them. It’s possible that Europe Trade Ltd is
> belongs to the same owner of the previous scam; InvestDot and
> VascoInvestment.
>
> Both InvestDot and VascoInvestment claimed that they were registered
> companies. InvestDot’s registered company known as Trade Agents (UK) Ltd
> while VascoInvestment’s registered company called UK Finance & Trade LLP
> When I searched for company details on Companies-House, Europe Trade (UK)
> Ltd, Trade Agents (UK) LLP and UK Finance & Trade LLP all incorporated
> under the same address which is SUITE 12, 2ND FLOOR, QUEENS HOUSE, 180
> TOTTENHAM COURT ROAD, LONDON W1T 7PD (however UK Finance & Trade LLP is
> on 3rd Floor);
> 1) Name & Registered Office:
> EUROPE TRADE (UK) LTD
> SUITE 12, 2ND FLOOR, QUEENS
> HOUSE, 180 TOTTENHAM COURT ROAD
> LONDON
> W1T 7PD
> Company No. 05070895
> Status: Active
> Date of Incorporation: 11/03/2004
> Country of Origin: United Kingdom
> 2) Name & Registered Office:
> TRADE AGENTS (UK) LLP (InvestDot)
> SUITE 12
> 2ND FLOOR QUEENS HOUSE
> 180 TOTTENHAM COURT ROAD
> LONDON W1T 7PD
> Company No. OC317667
> Status: Active
> Date of Incorporation: 07/02/2006
> Country of Origin: United Kingdom
> 3) Name & Registered Office:
> UK FINANCE & TRADE LLP (VascoInvestment)
> SUITE 12 3RD FLOOR
> QUEENS HOUSE
> 180 TOTTENHAM COURT ROAD
> LONDON W1T 7PD
> Company No. OC315007
> Status: Active
> Date of Incorporation: 02/09/2005
> Furthermore, when I searched for ‘whois’ information, again the domain
> names’ Registrant for Europe Trade and InvestDot are at the same address
> but VascoInvestment falsely registered under VascoInvestment Group which
> doesn’t exist instead of UK Finance & Trade LLP and of course false
> address too.
> 1) Domain Name.......... eutradeltd.com
> Creation Date........ 2005-12-27
> Registration Date.... 2005-12-27
> Expiry Date.......... 2010-12-27
> Organisation Name.... Europe Trade (UK) Ltd
> Organisation Address. 180 Tottenham Court Road
> Organisation Address. Suite 12
> Organisation Address. London
> Organisation Address. W1T 7PD
> Organisation Address. London
> Organisation Address. GREAT BRITAIN (UK)
> 2) Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
> Domain Name: INVESTDOT.COM
> Created on: 27-Jan-04
> Expires on: 01-Feb-08
> Last Updated on: 11-May-06
> Administrative Contact:
> ROBERTSHAW, JOHN info@investdot.com
> TRADE AGENTS (UK) LLP
> 180 TOTTENHAM COURT ROAD
> 2ND FLOOR QUEENS HOUSE
> LONDON, W1T 7PD
> United Kingdom
> Tel - 02030700093 Fax – 02030700093
> 3) domain: vascoinvestment.com
> origin-c: JOCO-1012256
> owner: Mark David Liebman
> organization: VASCOINVESTMENT GROUP
> email: vasco_invest@mailvault.com
> address: London, W1
> city: London
> state: --
> postal-code: W1B 2HJ
> country: GB
> phone: +44 0161 408 2280
> Updated Date: 28-Mar-2006
> Creation Date: 25-Jun-1998
> Expiration Date: 24-Jun-2008
> All the companies have similar ‘Trade’ and ‘UK’ name. All the programs also have similar small daily interest plans and 180days locked-in period with compound option. It’s too suspicious that these programs appear one by one, after one another. Upon disappearing of VascoInvestment, InvestDot has risen. Then after InvestDot gone, this new Europe Trade Ltd is appears. I think Europe Trade Ltd, InvestDot and VascoInvestment are not the only scam that they’re running. There must be other programs running by these same scammers. Maybe they’re also running Ralf-Finance as the phone call was ‘divert’ to the Europe Trade Ltd.
> Here is the extract from the ‘news’ section on Europe Trade Ltd’s site “It seems that an unknown individual is desperately trying to blackmail our company …… bla bla bla …… Our investors are receiving their profits as usual according with their payout plans.”
> Very funny! We neither blackmailed nor threatened them. We’re an online HYIP Magazine and not a HYI Program. Obviously, Europe Trade Ltd is not our competitor, so why should we slander their program without any reason? It’s ridiculous. Our mission is to provide honest and latest information for our readers. The fake posts are still flooding the Europe Trade Ltd’s thread on public forums. The admin accused someone else did it in order to destroy their program. Give me a break! Why would they targeting this new, small program while there’re other big threats and famous programs like fx-experts and offshoreclub. I think most of the fake posts are just ‘dirty trick’ from the admin themselves. The admin has argued our first news we wrote about their scam. However, the only argument she said was “We‘re paying. Give me the name of member who didn’t get pay”. Yeah right! Of course in the early launched you’re paying ‘mostly’ everybody in order to gain popularity and they’re only withdraw small amount right? When they gain popularity, members making large deposit and after that, surely the problem will arise. How about other issues that we brought up? Why no response from the admin about other issues? Unfortunately, the reply from e-gold as why Europe Trade Ltd’s previous e-gold account is placed a blocked on it is unsatisfactorily. According to e-gold, the account is blocked due to various reasons and they refused to elaborate more as they said it’s confidential. I believe Europe Trade Ltd is panicking now and will do anything to defend their program. Of course they don’t want to lose as they spend so much on advertising. I noticed they purchased top position banner everywhere. Their ‘aggressive promotions’ are just like their previous scam; InvestDot and VascoInvestment.
A quote from Ecommerce Journal's Editor, Joseph Markin: "The DDoS attacks have started last week on Thursday and have been going all week long. Currently, we were able to cease this attack. The attack has been created by Europe Trade LTD and was eating up bandwidth up to 4Gigabits per second, that's 40 times more than any regular DDoS. Eutradeltd.com is company that we've caught on scam (changing e-gold accounts, fake posts, fake customer support etc). On behalf of EJ’s administration, I’d like to clearly state that we SHALL continue our FURTHER INVESTIGATION of Europe Trade Ltd scam. We’ve predicted Solid Investment's Scam 1.5 months prior they ran away with investors money (as per our articles of May and June 2006).
So we’ll do anything we can to prevent our readers from doing any kind of business with these scammers. Stay away from Europe Trade LTD, read our magazine daily and INVEST SAFELY! "
source of from : http://www.ecommerce-journal.com/node/1811
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